Monday, November 20, 2006

Moron the Scholars' Hostile Takeover

Here's a proposal to reconcile the two sides.

On behalf of Morgan Reynolds & Judy Wood, we make this proposal for revitalization & reconstruction of & for Scholars for 9/11 Truth and the Journal of 9/11 Studies.

1) Scientific Integrity: Remove all references at the J911S & S911T sites to 9/11 evidence that does not have a proven & disclosed chain of custody and which may be fake. An alternative to removing such references would be to prominently & clearly describe the chain of custody and/or origins of this evidence. Two (2) examples of such questionable evidence are Steve Jones’ iron samples (allegedly from WTC Ground Zero, the origin of which is unclear) and Steve’s video evidence of molten iron or aluminum pouring from a WTC window (the spliced videos for which may not have shown such molten metal in their original internet postings).


Now, Reynolds and Woods do have a point here in that there is no good chain of custody on Jones' World Trade Center steel. But... I mean, Morgan Reynolds and Judy Woods calling for scientific integrity and "proven" evidence? These are the folks who brought us the invisible planes and the Star Wars beam weapon!

16 Comments:

At 20 November, 2006 11:43, Blogger Alex said...

Their argument, like that of most twoofers, breaks down to "it's only proven if WE say it's proven!".

 
At 20 November, 2006 11:45, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Notice no request to have a genuine peer review committeee of genuine unbias scientists in the given field. If that were to come to be, it would be a mighty skimpy journal indeed, and they know none of their own papers would make it.

TAM

 
At 20 November, 2006 11:53, Blogger Jujigatami said...

I had to re-read this a few times just to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing.

Reynolds and Wood are complaining about scientific integrity.

Holy crap.

I used to be mad at the truthers, now I'm just sad for them.

They are seriously mentally ill.

I mean I always thought that Fetzer and the "Scholars" are nothing more than media whores, but now I see, no, they are just seriously mentally ill.

Then add in the BG, NESNYC, Killtown, P'doh, JDX, etc, and I am starting to think that nationalized health care might not be such a bad idea if it can get these psychotics some help, or at least get them off the street.

Reall, I used to be mad and want to beat the living crap out of them, now I just pity them. These people need serious help. All of them.

Even the silly teenagers that buy in to this crap, They obviously have some family problems that make them more susceptible to the cult like truther brainwashing.

They need help.

 
At 20 November, 2006 13:03, Blogger Jujigatami said...

Me too, now I just laugh,and ridicule.

You're where I was a month or so ago.

But I'm at the point that ridiculing them is just mean.

Its like making fun of downs syndrome kids, or alzheimers patients.

They're just sad, sick people.

They can't help the fact they are seriously mentally ill. Its really not their fault.

What's worse is that they refuse to even recognize it at all. I mean, down's kids know they are "special", and alzheimers patients know that they are losing their faculties (unless they are already very far gone). The truthers think they are the only sane ones in the world- and thats the surest sign of insanity there is.

Hell, I'm starting to think there should be "chemtrails". Put some Paxil in 'em and fly far and long. It couldn't hurt.

 
At 20 November, 2006 13:21, Blogger Manny said...

But I'm at the point that ridiculing them is just mean.

I'll get there when the MSM stops covering them even semi-seriously and when downloads of their videos drop to a incestuous trickle. Not a second before. Until then they're still doing Osama bin Laden's work here in the US and deserve stomach cancer.

 
At 20 November, 2006 13:23, Blogger Nyke said...

It's like watching a cockfight or a cricket* match.

*match between crickets, not the confusing game played in England.

 
At 20 November, 2006 13:45, Blogger Jujigatami said...

Until then they're still doing Osama bin Laden's work here in the US and deserve stomach cancer.

I do agree with that for the most part, though I wish rectal cancer on them. And hey, I know a lot of jokes about DS Kids and Alzheimers patients... damn funny stuff.

But thats not what I'm saying. If some nut listens to his dog and goes off and kills a bunch of people, he deserves to fry, and I'd pull the switch. But I wouldn't make fun of him for being wickey in the wacky woo. And I'd think he's beyond help too.

I'd still feel sorry for him, and moreso for his victims, since if he just were locked away, they'd be alive.

Does that make sense?

I don't know what I'm saying here. One one hand I do hope they get rectal cancer, on the other I know they are sick, sick, individuals. I've just given up hope for them. They can't be reasoned with, they have no idea what real evidence is, and can't even come close to grasping reality. Sure mock and ridicule makes ME feel better, but still, its like mocking cancer patients.

Most show the ability to reason.

Really? I have yet to see it. They THINK they are critical thinkers, but they are deluded.

 
At 20 November, 2006 13:52, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jujigatami,

Until we get National Heath Care (which I don't support by the way), I wonder if I could give a P O Box to any of you who would like to help pay for my care?

 
At 20 November, 2006 16:36, Anonymous Anonymous said...

pdoherty76 and everyone,

I think wishing death on anyone in this format lessens the inclination the rest of us should have to take you seriously.

 
At 20 November, 2006 17:26, Blogger Alex said...

Hardly. I wish Osama would die too. How does that invalidate any of my arguments?

People like play-doh over there are so obviously a perversion of the human genetic code that allowing them to procreate would be a crime against humanity. I see nothing wrong with saying that he doesn't deserve to live.

 
At 20 November, 2006 18:03, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex,

I think you got you wish about OBL shortly after 9/11.

 
At 20 November, 2006 18:07, Blogger Alex said...

Yes, they killed him while they were faking the videotapes, right?

Christ man, I don't know what to do for you any more. You're like a severe burn victim - I look at you and think "....why would this person want to go on living?".

 
At 20 November, 2006 18:21, Blogger ConsDemo said...

"Scientific Integrity: Remove all references at the J911S & S911T sites to 9/11 evidence that does not have a proven & disclosed chain of custody and which may be fake. "

Wow, since that would mean all their so-called "evidence", I guess the Deniers can get together and have one giant book burning and go back to their asylums.

 
At 20 November, 2006 20:20, Blogger Manny said...

I hope you get murdered.

Happily for you, you are much more likely to have your wish come true than I am, particularly following the recent election results.

I work in downtown New York, a place for which al Qaeda continues to have an obsession. So if he gets off a dirty nuke or whatever and you don't see me posting, you'll have got your wish.

 
At 20 November, 2006 20:54, Blogger shawn said...

Nice to see youre not making light of 9/11 and disrespecting the families.

...says the guy who diverts the blame from their loved ones' murderer.

 
At 21 November, 2006 08:07, Blogger Jujigatami said...

Until we get National Heath Care (which I don't support by the way), I wonder if I could give a P O Box to any of you who would like to help pay for my care?

I'd be happy to get you in contact with a good psychiatrist, and you know what, I'll help pay the bill for your therapy and meds.

But since I already think you must be under inpatient care, I don't see how my offer will help you. Either way, your doctor needs to up your meds or change the prescription. What you are on now just isn't working.

 

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